Andreas Broeckmann on Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:42:27 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> from hypertext to codework |
ken, this thread was still hanging around ... i want to take issue with your claim that the codework you reference is an example of collaborative, non-identity oriented practice. >Codework makes of >writing a media art that breaks with the fetishism of the text and the >abstraction of language. It brings writing into contact with the other >branches of media art, such as music and cinema, all of which are >converging in the emerging space of multimedia, and which often have a >richer conception of the politics of media art as a collaborative practice >than has been the case with writing conceived within the prison-house of >"text." i fully respect your examples as artistic/literary practices, but in what way are jodi, mez, antiorp/nn, sondheim etc. representatives of open processes? jodi's work is good _because_ jo&di have the code under control, just as mez is an _author_, machine-aided, style-enhanced, yes, but an author. just as antiorp/nn - the most collaborative entity in the series, i guess - poses as one; we all know they are several, but they exhibit a clear sense of ideological tightness and closure. the identities may be fictional, but i don't see that any of these breaks out of the identity shell. nn might be the best gamer, but its insults are too much for my stomach. [she'll call me a weak imbecile for this remark, won't you, dear?] what you describe are machinic processes, yes, but the kinds of collaborative practices that heico idensen talks about (in the hypertext world mainly) - i don't see them in your codework examples. is artistic codework more authorial than open source programming? greetings, -a # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net