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From ---@idir.net Mon Oct 5 19:02:22 1998 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:52:23 -0700 From: ---@idir.net To: bbrace@netcom.com Dear Brad Brace- My name is Steven Renfro and I am a rescent college graduate from the University of Kansas film school. I am currently seeking a position to assist a photographer whom I believe I could learn from. In my search, I have run across some of the images that you have created. And, to get to the point, I am curious to find out wether or not you need an assistant. If you are at all interested in employing my services, I would be more than gratefull to send an electronic copy of my resume along with 12 sample pieces of work (electronic or hardcopy). I thank you for your time and, look forward to hearing from you soon. Sincerely, -Steven Renfro- From ---@prodigy.net Mon Oct 5 19:12:14 1998 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:45:15 -0000 To: "[Brad Brace]" <bbrace@netcom.com> Subject: Re: 02925.jpg [1/1] (12hr) I was wondering if this picture was taken of a lake in Mattoon, Illinois ? If not could you please tell me where this was taken ? Thank you, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: [Brad Brace] <bbrace@netcom.com> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.12hr,alt.binaries.pictures.misc,alt.binaries.pictures. fine-art.misc Date: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 3:57 PM Subject: 02925.jpg [1/1] (12hr) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:57:12 -0500 From: michael <---@sihope.com> To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: Re: 03692.jpg [1/1] (12hr) Brad did you know there are people that seem to not possibly be there in the reflections of your pictures - it doesn't appear you have altered the photos yet from the angle of the reflection they can't possibly be there attached is an example from your last photo - forgive me my imaging software isn't the best but you can see that this face is made-up of 4 or five other faces - I have see these effects in everyone of your photos - i don't know what to say to you - i find your photos --- curious--- ----- Original Message ----- From: { brad brace } <bbrace@shell.ncal.verio.com> Newsgroups: alt.12hr,12hr,hk.binaries.photo.photography Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 10:04 PM Subject: 03692.jpg [1/1] (12hr) From ---@free.fr Tue Oct 19 17:47:47 1999 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:55:54 +0200 To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: Re: UPDATE: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project hi Brad. 1/ thank you for using PAVU Communication Supports. Your mail was sent to every important institution, artists and critics in France and ariund. 2/ we hope that your visit of Informative Arts Art Fondation will be pleasant (http://iaaf.free.fr) e-position (a proposal from Annie Abrahams and Yann Le Guennec (x-arn - Lorient) open today. - iaaf is opened to all talentuous curators. Please think of it. It will be a pleasure for us to invite you to curate an Informative Art show in our foundation. (see "les arts informatifs" - historique (english language) on first page) 3/ please visit PAVU Technology website at http://pavu.free.fr // Joint-Venture coming soon. 4/ Everyone here enjoy your artworks. sincerely yours --------------- clement Thomas iaaf administrator. (http://iaaf.free.fr) CEO of IAPU (informative arts production unit) - PAVU technologies (http://pavu.free.fr) PAVU english version is powered by Altavista. --------------- { brad brace } a *crit : > _______ _ __ ___ _ > |__ __| | /_ |__ \| | > | | | |__ ___ | | ) | |__ _ __ > | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| > | | | | | | __/ | |/ /_| | | | | > |_| |_| |_|\___| |_|____|_| |_|_| > _____ _____ ____ _ _ _ _____ ______ _____ > |_ _|/ ____| _ \| \ | | | | __ \| ____/ ____| > | | | (___ | |_) | \| |______ | | |__) | |__ | | __ > | | \___ \| _ <| . ` |______| | | ___/| __|| | |_ | > _| |_ ____) | |_) | |\ | | |__| | | | |___| |__| | > |_____|_____/|____/|_| \_| \____/|_| |______\_____| > > | __ \ (_) | | > | |__) | __ ___ _ ___ ___| |_ > | ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __| > | | | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ > |_| |_| \___/| |\___|\___|\__| > _/ | > |__/ > > > -- From ---@kunst.no Tue Oct 26 17:40:36 1999 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:35:22 +0200 To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: Re: MountBlank: Practice Spirituality >For an entire day, speak to no one. > > > >The_12hr-ISBN-JPEG_Project since 1994 <<< > >> episodic ftp://ftp.wco.com/pub/users/bbrace < >> eccentric ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/bb/bbrace < >> continuous ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/bbrace < >> hypermodern ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace < >> imagery online ftp://ftp.pacifier.com/pub/users/bbrace < > >Usenet News://alt.binaries.pictures.12hr/ a.b.p.fine-art.misc >Mailing-list: listserv@netcom.com / subscribe 12hr-isbn-jpeg >Reverse Solidus: http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html > >{ brad brace } <<<< bbrace@netcom.com >>>> ~finger for pgp Dear Brad Thanks again for your contribution to MountBlank. Your mail has been taken in as a proposal and has now been included in the selection of practices. If you are not happy with the way SILENCE is displayed or the way your name is attached to it please let me know. I'll be happy to make adjusments so that everyone is happy. At your convenience visit http://www.kit.ntnu.no/stud/barcley/mountblank/practices.html to check it out. Best, Atle +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ http://www.kunst.no/barcley/ @ http://www.kunst.no Pb. 1137 - Blindern, N-0317 Oslo, Norway fax: (+47)22 85 79 74 From ---@voir.ca Tue Oct 26 17:51:43 1999 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 99 10:45:22 -0400 To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: RE: apparent hoax Re: Fw: Please Forward: insider trading >The_12hr-ISBN-JPEG_Project since 1994 <<< What dat? m-j _________________________________________ M-J Milloy News Editor, HOUR Magazine Montreal, PQ 514.848.0777 (voice) 514.848.9004 (fax) www.afterhour.com From bbrace@wired.com Wed Oct 27 18:50:28 1999 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:47:05 -0700 From: { brad brace } <bbrace@wired.com> To: bbrace@wco.com Subject: bonjour Brad Brace dear {Brad Brace} ( by advance excuse my english!), fews days ago, i've printed part of your text about " the 12hr ISBN-project" to read it slowly. I don't know much of your work but i'm curious of your attitude on the web that seems to be close to a collective project i'm working on since March 99. We've opened a ftp site in Paris because it seems to us the best way to distribute autonomous artistic pieces made with computers ( program, video, mp3 sound and so on...). The minimalist character of ftp is a kind of response (or point of view) to animated web site. The non-esthetic form of ftp permit to leave the place to artistic informatic pieces, a neutral context in fact. Adress > <ftp://www.491.org/teleferique>ftp://www.491.org/teleferique I just want to know a little bit more about your work and point of view. Your different ftp sites are much bigger than ours. I like it very much... We're making different events in Paris and outside. The next one is in Acces Local, 15 rue Martel 75010 Paris 01 47 70 12 00 5 december all day... sincerely, Etienne Cliquet@14h30 From ---@mps.krakow.pl Sat Oct 30 06:43:47 1999 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:02:32 +0200 To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: thanks for taking a part in GlobalMix Hello, thank you very much for taking a part in our project, your clip will be used in the 2nd GlobalMix on 14 Nov '99 which will be the final event of Audio Art Festival '99 in Cracow. You will be notified as soon as we'll place your clip on GlobalMix homepage. all the best, GlobalMix crew From ---@surfree.net.il Fri Nov 19 07:08:16 1999 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:59:50 +0200 To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: [iso-8859-8] בעניין: 03695.jpg [1/1] (12hr) -----הודעה מקורית----- מאת: { brad brace } <bbrace@shell.ncal.verio.com> קבוצות דיון: alt.12hr,12hr,hk.binaries.photo.photography תאריך: יום שלישי 19 אוקטובר 1999 16:36 נושא: 03695.jpg [1/1] (12hr) From ---@usd.edu Fri Nov 26 18:00:22 1999 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 23:35:24 -0600 To: list@rhizome.org Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: T NOT P Victor Grauer writes: >I'm a programmer, so I > know very well the value of constraints and rules. What bothers me is > that hordes of very creative but also very naive people are jumping on > a bandwagon supposedly taking them to that all important "next step" > but which is in fact, IMO, taking them backward. And this backward > step is being hailed as something innovative and progressive by a > group of people who have absolutely no idea what it means to truly > innovate. (I do.) Following the lead of the makers of software like > Director, VRML, etc., or languages such as Dynamic HTML, Java, > JavaScript, VBScript, etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum, is NOT being > innovative. It is being led around by the nose. As McLuhan very > astutely observed, the content of every new medium is the media of the > past and such software is very specifically designed to accomplish > just that. You seem to be arguing here that to be an innovative artist, you have to make your own paints rather than buy them in a shop. Now I have some sympathy for this - William Blake was a relentlessly radical - and sometimes successful - innovator. But we must all use the existing material things of our culture as the source for the creation of new things. It depends entirely on whether you want to be a builder or a decorator.... > Meanwhile those of us (am I the ONLY one?) really pushing the medium > in the only way it CAN be pushed, by actually programming the > *computer* (rather than pushing some buttons on a digital "paint by > numbers kit") to produce something truly new are finding it all but > impossible to find a place for their work. I create art by > programming computers. I have no interest in "WEB art" because I have > no patience with the limitations and slowness of the available > software "venues." I have no interest in superficial "interactivity." > So what I do has no name and no place. And since I have been doing > this for a LONG time, with very little outlet for my work anywhere, I > am getting VERY tired of holding my peace on this topic. The problem with innovation is that you are necessarily on the periphery. Hence, you cannot hope to corner a market. That simply goes with the lack of territory. In the meantime, let those who want to live in the twee downtowns and suburbs be. They are necessarily followers, rather than leaders - so they constitute a large majority of like-minded consumers. If you want to be recognized now for what you do, do like them and fiddle with existing structures and content. If you want to innovate, then do so, stop worrying about being accepted and become a curmudgeon, like Brad Brace. It's the only way to cope. Brian Leigh Molyneaux From ---@hotmail.com Sun Dec 19 07:39:39 1999 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:13:17 GMT To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: Re: contribution brad. would like to include your twelve hour project in CLICK!! [ assume that is why you submitted it]. however, may link the 5 ftp sites from CLICK!! rather than linking the http server? LOOPBYMATTHEW... ---------------------------- Rocket Fuel Magazine http://www.rocket-fuel.com greyletter press [where you can find CLICK!!, the new scratch off game!!] http://circle.hipster.org ---------------------------- From ---@aol.com Tue Feb 1 20:28:43 2000 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:36:19 -0500 Reply-To: thingist@listproc.thing.net To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: Re: Things are looking Grim for Genius 2000 I agree with Max Herman. Brad Brace is a lazy-ass, sorry SOB. Every single day I click on that same girl's legs. 12-hour Internet hoax! What exactly is he doing in Room 120 and 129? First he afflicts people with this compulsive virus to their biological clockwork; then he drops the entire global village for some trashy doe-eyed, barefoot swamp tramp right out of Faulkner! I have trouble remembering what day it is anyway, and I hear there's fixin to be a panic in Greenwich (on the Thames.) He even admitted it when I confronted him; this made me suspicious. But when I inspect it closely for some little creative detail which only an artistic genius would notice without prompting, I think it really is exactly the same picture. No excuse! My product loyalty has been abused. --------------------------------------------------------------- t h i n g i s t --------------------------------------------------------------- From ---@aol.com Thu Feb 3 19:38:42 2000 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:17:31 EST To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: Chromoplastic Chronometry Chronic! Does the Grand Clockmaker go on vacation? Does He premit the Clockwork Universe to come unwound? Primitive peoples see it as related to the recent eclipse; they are sacrificing village maidens to volcanoes in hopes Brad Brace will be placated and post. The more metaphysically-minded wonder if we are intended to learn some kind of lesson. I heard a girl's voice, with a bandwidth somewhere between KISS and KLUV, speak in an earnest tone about prayerful patience. But perhaps Brad Brace is only a mighty patriarchal warrior like Joshua, and has stopped the sun and moon in their courses across our blue window so that a battle may be rewound and edited. It's eternity in time; the one-point concentration which successfully negotiates the Bardo realm of distracting illusion. Anti-matter. Stasis. Heraclitian stat-ue, undraped; Parmenides exposed. From ---@yahoo.com Sat Feb 5 08:36:21 2000 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 05:21:49 -0800 (PST) To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: Re: UPDATE: The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project thanks brad..got this post durring the opening last night...made me very happy... --- { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> wrote: > > _______ _ __ ___ _ > |__ __| | /_ |__ \| | > | | | |__ ___ | | ) | |__ _ __ > | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| > | | | | | | __/ | |/ /_| | | | | > |_| |_| |_|\___| |_|____|_| |_|_| > _____ _____ ____ _ _ _ _____ ______ _____ > |_ _|/ ____| _ \| \ | | | | __ \| ____/ ____| > | | | (___ | |_) | \| |______ | | |__) | |__ | | __ > | | \___ \| _ <| . ` |______| | | ___/| __|| | |_ | > _| |_ ____) | |_) | |\ | | |__| | | | |___| |__| | > |_____|_____/|____/|_| \_| \____/|_| |______\_____| > > | __ \ (_) | | > | |__) | __ ___ _ ___ ___| |_ > | ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __| > | | | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ > |_| |_| \___/| |\___|\___|\__| > _/ | > |__/ > > ===== [another quality email transmission] [from ---@yahoo.com] [password:annex] [not from] [http://pleine-peau.com/n8/spam] __________________________________________________ From ---@memlane.com Sun Feb 6 13:42:04 2000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:36:42 Reply-To: webartery@onelist.com To: webartery@onelist.com Subject: Re: [webartery] Net.art >Rather than expanding; the possibilities of exhibition are becoming >progressively more constricted here over the past 15 years. Not just for me >but also for the geographically local artists I know. The internet is very >much like my physical journey to this city which is the nation's art >capital. It is a release from provincialism. This list is my New York/Paris >cafe. We have broken free! A bit rosey for me, Barry, but I do appreciate your optimism... >At least we can show each other our work - like opening a sketchbook or >portfolio at an art school hangout. The relief and pleasure in that small >act in this small circle is of immeasurable value to me. ...and will ditto this -- 100%... >Thanks to this and thanks to you, ...and this... As for what the 'art establishment' is trying to do vis a vis the genie and the bottle, net.art and all -- well, they're just trying to do what we're all trying to do out here, namely to learn, adapt, and survive... from my perspective, of course. To what end? Here is room for cynicism, per your perspective, Brad... 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project [ from ZINE n LIT library (A&T) 1997 SEP 25 ] The project was launched on the World Wide Web of the Internet in late 1994. It continues even now, making it one of the longest running art projects of its kind. ._________ _ ____________ _ __ __________________. | |__ __| | /_ |__ \| | | | | | | |__ ___ | | ) | |__ _ __ | | | | | '_ \ / _ \ | | / /| '_ \| '__| | | | | | | | | __/ | |/ /_| | | | | | | |_| |_| |_|\___| |_|____|_| |_|_| | |_____ _____ ____ _ _ _ _____ ______ _____| ._ _|/ ____| _ \| \ | | | | __ \| ____/ ____. | | | | (___ | |_) | \| |______ | | |__) | |__ | | __| | | | \___ \| _ <| . ` |______| | | ___/| __|| | |_ . |_| |_ ____) | |_) | |\ | | |__| | | | |___| |__| . ._____|_____/|____/|_| \_| \____/|_| |______\_____. | _____ _ _ | | | __ \ (_) | | | | | |__) | __ ___ _ ___ ___| |_ | | | ___/ '__/ _ \| |/ _ \/ __| __| | | | | | | | (_) | | __/ (__| |_ | | |_| |_| \___/| |\___|\___|\__| | | _/ | | |__________________________| /___________________________| "...posted/mailed every 12 hours... perfect trans-avant-garde memes for the 90`s! A continuum of minimalist masks in the face of catastrophe; conjuring up transformative metaphors for the everyday..." -Brad Brace 1994 -- Many of today's 'best-known' net.artists were still playing with PacMan... Hats off to you, Brad, and continued success for your projects. 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project: http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/12hr.html ZINE n LIT library: http://warnell.com/zinen/library/at970925.htm Ted From ---@fact.co.uk Tue Feb 8 21:02:34 2000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:01:51 +0000 To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: GMI Dear Brad, Thank you for your patience, I am now in a position to give you a final answer. I am afraid that, following a meeting with the curatorial team, the project "The 12hr ISBN-JPEG Project" has not been selected for presentation on GMI at this time. We are very sorry and hope this will not prevent you from submitting further works in the future. Many thanks for the time and effort you spent in applying and in subsequent conversations. Yours sincerely, Fee. = + = + = + = + F e e P l u m l e y - C u r a t o r i a l P r o j e c t M a n a g e r G l o b a l M u l t i m e d i a I n t e r f a c e Foundation for Art & Creative Technology Bluecoat Chambers School Lane Liverpool L1 3BX UK M: +44(0) 7968 258630 E: gmi@fact.co.uk W: http://www.thegmi.com - & - T: +44(0) 151 709 2663 F: +44(0) 151 707 2150 W: http://www.fact.co.uk From ---@aol.com Thu Feb 10 19:47:09 2000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:17:44 -0500 Reply-To: thingist@listproc.thing.net To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: Re: Reverse Censorship I suspected that Brad Brace was some kind of fascist. Look how he has been playing with his clock. It's so insidious. First, in all innocence, I start viewing his pix. Nothing wrong with that. Isn't there some kind of federal law about truth in advertising, bait and switch? So now he's had me holding my breath for several weeks of thirteen hour increments. It's like Apollo 13, even the Vatican is involved in the vigil. Each day I waken with new hope; each day he dashes it. The Island of the multiple Days Before. What day is it?--yesterday! Chained us in a Platonic cave, without even moving shadows. Parmenides never changing e-flow. You know how superstition works, too. You start getting paranoid, "Maybe it's a critique of me as fashion victim. Maybe Brad Brace KNOWS that I never wear anything but my workout clothes around Waco." Religious angst, fear and guilt. Sacrifice a credit card to appease the celestials. --------------------------------------------------------------- t h i n g i s t --------------------------------------------------------------- From ---@aol.com Fri Feb 11 17:31:37 2000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:38:42 -0500 Reply-To: thingist@listproc.thing.net To: bbrace@ncal.verio.com Subject: Re: Day in a Life 2/10/00 Self-promoting. Narcissistic. Delusions of doting grandmothers. So, I think you're imposing by exposing. On the other hand, it's exactly why I'm having trouble writing formula fiction, engaging stories, Jungian rehashes. What is remarkable to me-- real exoticism-- is the incredible persistence of the everyday. Your knobby little self that keeps on pressing like you have energizer batteries. Am I sounding like Maxamillion? Yeah, but there is nothing more aesthetic than reality which is gasping for air between the larger than lifes. I also appreciate your heroic Titanic routine, trying to save time from the ever tightening screws on the Brace. (I've searched my heart more earnestly. Perhaps its the bubblegum music I listen to. This has angered him; the boom box is the clue. If I will listen to Mozart, the oracle says, not only will my IQ improve, but Bradley will resume his rhythmic response.) Time for classical order. One day at a time. Dearest diarist! Catherine Brown --------------------------------------------------------------- t h i n g i s t --------------------------------------------------------------- From bbrace@wired.com Mon Feb 14 20:49:14 2000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:25:59 -0700 From: { brad brace } <bbrace@wired.com> To: bbrace@wco.com Subject: Re: [ISEA-FORUM:536] Online Art Museum Sweatshops Brad, I don't think that many people have had the balls to do this. Look, I've known you for a long time (at least virtually). One thing that I've always known is that you're constant as the North Star in your own polemic, and I think there'sa lot to be said for consistency. And I think it's tremendously amusing that many in the net.art community have placed you in the lunatic fringe for your views, without looking behind the curtain of what your motivations might be. But then most aren;t obsessed with metanarrative like I am. So, I wonder what it is that you're looking for - the simple inversion of the power relations in the art world? Can't be that simple, and I'll slap you if it's as easy as the old DADA maneuver. Overthrow hegemony, empower the poletariat, that sort of thing. But then, I'm also thinking that you're by definition one of art's 'last men standing', the loyal opposition as to keep the the whole power structure visible, and that's useful as well. But I wonder, what would happen in a world where the Brad Braces of the world became hegemonic centers in themselves. Would we see an aesthetic banana republic, or would we see a fundamental paradigmatic shift in the art world, or what? (Hey, it may seem far-fetched, but work with me here)... I just think that it's so damned amusing to watch people dismiss what you're trying to say when I think that what you're saying is probably totally immaterial to the fact that you're screaming about these things in the first place. And I don't think that many people have had the cojones or have turned up the controls on the ol neural net far enough to ask these questions. ALmost sounds like it coudl be an interview... >THE MUSEUM OF IDIOT-NET-ARTIST SHILLS > >The work of over 125 pandering online artist-victims will be presented >as part of: > >EAT-ME: An International Conference of Blabbering Incestuous Artworld >Acolytes at the Walker Art Center (April 6-8, 2000) > ><-- <http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/blabbering-cronies.html>http://bbrace.laughings quid.net/blabbering-cronies.html --> > >Cultural identity, in the deepest sense, is all about open, intrinsic >value. The institutionalized culture is never a means but always an >end. Cultural resources, rituals, and activities are valued in and of >themselves. They are not things that can be reduced to quantifiable >standards. > >Culture, then, exists in sharp contrast to the institutional sphere, >in which all phenomena is reduced to utility, and expropriation and >expediency become the accepted artworld norms. > From bbrace@wired.com Mon Feb 14 20:52:38 2000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:34:56 -0700 From: { brad brace } <bbrace@wired.com> To: bbrace@wco.com Subject: [http://pavu.com/elliott-arco2000] - Arco2000 World Grand Prix - feb 11 2000 between 7h30 and 7h31 pm, follow the running Net Horses horse=11.Brad Brace palais-tokyo // + qu'hier et bien - que demain Dear Brad Brace Your project: The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project was not selected for Vdor21/Break21 festival. Due to large number of proposals we are not able to give detailed description for our decision. We are looking forward for your proposal for the next Vdor21/Break21 festival in 2001. Best regards, net section of the Vdor21/Break21 festival, Jaka Zeleznikar From ---@azstarnet.com Thu Mar 23 19:35:54 2000 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:43:20 -0700 To: { brad brace } <bbrace@ncal.verio.com> Subject: (no subject) tucson is the best place in arizona besides bisbee & jerome, which are really small. Be a real cowboy and stay at copper queen in douglas, bisbee. Hotel Congress, someplace secret, can show, major old missile bomb stockpile/.. i think they're empty. saw two years ago. walk along ther tracks and fences. into the industrial yard is the perfect fuzzy picture. Of course you're back home already. go to casino on indian reserve. stripe shirts win money. From ---@is2.nyu.edu Mon Mar 27 06:44:17 2000 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:22:03 -0500 Reply-To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu Subject: Re: Re ;-) My only complaint concerning b/rad is that the positin he has set for himself is that in order that he be right everyone else has to be wrong -- and in being wrong we are sniveling cowards because we do not embrace his truth -- as to his truth it is the same old modernist -- claim to a decontextualized belief in the great leveling of technology in which everything is fine and good as long as there are no standars by which to define fine and good, or atleast none other than his. it partakes of the laissez fair capitalism of e-commerce in which there are no goods or services just the promise of them. Within this there is only a commitment to embrace the phantasmagoric social formations that lies beyond any possible utopian reforms other than its acceptance. The condition that this logic confirms or perhaps manifests is that of the collapse of the imagined into "the real", binding us to late capitalism ideological commitment to the flow of goods, services and events as cultural spectacle therefore forming the rationalizing structures of a cultural symbollic. In other words an "authentic" premised on synthetic experience and none other is now possible and real without announcing its instrumental perversion? That is Brad has lost any self-reflexivity -- self doubt his paranoid-narcisism has made all others who do not reflect his belief his enemy for they represent that whcih opppresses and devalues him -- consequently he accuses them of doing exactly what hehas committed himself to authoritarianism. --- from list avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu --- From ---@is2.nyu.edu Mon Mar 27 08:17:38 2000 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:02:21 -0500 Reply-To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu Subject: Re: Re ;-) Brad, you continue to appropriate and exonerate theinsturmental logic of the new the impoverished modernist political polarities of a techno sublime . I'm sorrybut AI'm not at all surprised at your woeful lack of intellect; that you continue to send mindlessly myopic and self congradulatory missives that plead for those who you would dismiss and abuse to celebrate or even care that the 12hr-project has passed the 4000-mark! How pathetic it is that you would pander in this manner. I'm sorry to say that bait as you may -- you have no audience here. --- from list avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu --- From ---@sfaserv.sfa.uconn.edu Mon Mar 27 08:40:06 2000 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 19:57:52 -0500 Reply-To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu To: avant-garde@lists.village.virginia.edu Subject: Re: Re ;-) Brad is definitely not chronos devouring saturn, I've been to his site he devours time and nothing more -- in this his mouth is big enough he lacks the other attributes -- The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project >>>> since 1994 <<<< + + + serial ftp://ftp.wco.com/pub/users/bbrace + + + eccentric ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/bb/bbrace + + + continuous ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/bbrace + + + hypermodern ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace + + + imagery ftp://ftp.pacifier.com/pub/users/bbrace > News://alt.binaries.pictures.12hr ://a.b.p.fine-art.misc > Mailing-list: listserv@netcom.com / subscribe 12hr-isbn-jpeg > Reverse Solidus: http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net > http://www.teleport.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html { brad brace } <<<< bbrace@netcom.com >>>> ~finger for pgp __ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold