Josephine Bosma on Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: Museum Europe |
This is a rather simple writing. Just a warning for the academics out there. Geert Lovink: "Culture can longer be seen as a motor, as it was in the mid nineties, but rather as an after-effect. (...) (...) the expectation that culture can be our very European, magic ingredient to turn technology into gold, should be criticized and actively discouraged." As a member of the nettime-bold list it is kind of hard to read the conversation between Lunenfeld and Lovink without squirming. As a close friend of Geert Lovink I keep being overcome by a kind of embarrassement (which undoubtably works both ways) when reading or hearing any views of Geert on art and culture. Years of discussions and deep talks have not led to a loss of hatred for the two in Geert I am afraid. It seems to only have grown. I am by now really tired of it. Geert Lovink is a leftist politician/activist in the bad sense of the word. True: money comes first in this world. Everything evolves around it, everything is controlled by it. To not recognize ones responsibility as a cultural worker in relation to this is sad. One can talk about art and culture in different ways. Taking the global economy 'line' that Geert seems to prefer and which he seems to put forward as 'the way things are' or even worse, as plain 'reality', art and culture could now be called a 'niche market'. This very interesting realistic perception only serves the market itself though, and does nothing to criticize it, or oppose it. What I am trying to say, is that Geert Lovink is keeping the negative cultural state in existence, he is supporting it by denying culture a part in his view of the world. He is as guilty as any other he is accusing in causing a downward spiral in the way the world develops. This tendency to seperate culture and 'politics' is taking on rather fargoing forms here on nettime, (and many of you probably have forgotten,) nettime-bold is just one result of it. Geert again: "That would be true cybernetics, to understand the feedback loops of our actions." Yes, if only you did! It is very important that also those that call themselves activists know that all the injustice in the world they are fighting first and foremost is embedded in and saturated by culture. Culture is the driving force of society, next to money and the seemingly simple fact of our existence, and not an after effect. This is pure falsification, pure provocation from Geerts side. He KNOWS it is not true, yet by putting it forward again and again not just in text, but also in action, he amplifies it and makes it a truth. In fact Geert Lovink and some others on this list are the kind of revolutionaries you do not want to be in the hands of. This split between artists and those that 'truly work for the good of mankind' is wellknown here in Amsterdam/Holland in the old squattersscene, and it always creates unnecesary oppositions and worse. It works against 'the people' instead of for them. regards J * _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold